The capitalist system is about taking from the Earth and from the other great commodity, labour. What's happening with this system is that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, and the only way out of it is supposed to be growth. But growth is debt. It's going to make the situation worse. ✨ The Saturday interview: Vivienne Westwood. Interview with Stuart Jeffries, www.theguardian.com. December 2, 2011.

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